{"id":69,"date":"2004-06-29T02:15:29","date_gmt":"2004-06-29T02:15:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/j.unoccupied.org\/?p=69"},"modified":"2004-06-29T02:15:29","modified_gmt":"2004-06-29T02:15:29","slug":"an-attempt-at-a-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/j.unoccupied.org\/?p=69","title":{"rendered":"an attempt at a interview"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Great ideas backfire if pursued too heavily.<\/p>\n<p>So last Wednesday, I thought it would be a great idea to make a documentary of meeting people from the past.  I had been inspired by a film about a guy\\&#8217;s ex-girlfriends.  \\&#8221;Self-indulgent,\\&#8221; our instructor had said.<\/p>\n<p>But I went ahead with my plan and had babbled endlessly with Karen and Thomas down Telegraph.  I imagined the scenarios, the questions I would ask.  But how would I accomplish this?<\/p>\n<p>So this night approached when I finally would call Jason.  Jason Chen.  Before I was troubled by the fact that I may succumb to my old ways of always trying to be right.  And then missing the point and I would be the one that looked bad on camera.  I swallowed hard while my fingers tittered in nervousness.  It took several minutes until I could convince myself to begin recording.<\/p>\n<p>When I pressed the red button to record, I ran back to the sofa and pressed the green button on my cell to call.  I had received Jason\\&#8217;s number several weeks ago when he tried to talk to me outside the apartment.  At that time, I thought that the conversation we had was perfect.  I never was that bitter at that time, never deceiving, just myself&#8230;just open.<\/p>\n<p>Well unfortunately, it didn\\&#8217;t work out that way.  I began recording, struggling with the mic, not quite sure how I would make sure that the mic would pick up the conversation on the cell and me speaking.  So the conversation was ok at first.  But I sensed how almost futile and how contrived it was.  I had planned out a speech and was able to get Jason to aquiesce to an interview.  Then satisfied, I walked to the camera and stopped recording.<\/p>\n<p>I had intended to end the phone call at that point, saying that I would contact him later to set up the interview.  But due to my curiousity and perhaps his too, we pressed on.  This resulted in a 51 minute conversation where I felt that I was put into a vulnerable positon.  This wasn\\&#8217;t what I had wanted.  But I suppose it could not have been avoided.<\/p>\n<p>Jason accused me of treating people like experiments.  I agreed, saying that I was apathetic.  Then I submitted to the idea that&#8230;perhaps&#8230;just perhaps&#8230;that I was putting up a stone wall of thick stone protecting myself.  Self-defense.  That it was all put up because Jason had hurt me in the past.<\/p>\n<p>But really, I had just plucked this from thin air.  I didn\\&#8217;t really believe what I said.  And I certainly didn\\&#8217;t believe that he hurt me.  I was apathetic at that point.  I didn\\&#8217;t really care.  It was sort of like the rendevous I had with Adam where I only tried to provoke him rather than talking..as friends.<\/p>\n<p>Eventually, Jason got around to the dreaded discussion of what a \\&#8221;friend\\&#8221; is supposed to mean.  I always heard the same arguments.  At this stage of my life, I wanted to avoid it.  With most people that I want to continue \\&#8221;normal\\&#8221; relations with, I always try to avoid the topic.  Always try to be normal.  But here I was, sucked back in.  And due to my desire to be right, I didn\\&#8217;t want to get involved anymore.  I told Jason quite bluntly that I knew all about it.  And cliched as it was, Jason responded that I didn\\&#8217;t know it all.  That there was more.  Oh whatever, that\\&#8217;s such the appropriate answer.  I could have given the same response in the melodramatic moment.<\/p>\n<p>And so it was like that for a long time.  and at another dramatic moment that wasn\\&#8217;t oscar-worthy, he said, \\&#8221;I will have my hand open.\\&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Open and waiting.  Cliched.  I had to admire his strong beliefs and ambition.  It was truthful of him.  But I was wary of this.  I was sort of tired of the philosophical discussion.  What was the point of having such a conversation again?  It always led us to the beginning.  I told him that I felt resentful and ill at ease.  Bluntly, I said, \\&#8221;I would rather not have this conversation.\\&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But alas, people keep going.  I questioned his comment.  \\&#8221;Hand reaching out to help me from a fall or a hand guiding me back to a path?\\&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\\&#8221;Just an open hand,\\&#8221; he responded.<\/p>\n<p>I wasn\\&#8217;t too happy with this.  Nothing moved me as it should in a movie.  I wasn\\&#8217;t filming though.  I didn\\&#8217;t care anymore, and that perhaps will be my downfall.<\/p>\n<p>I told him that if someone referred to him that I would only refer to him as \\&#8221;someone I used to know\\&#8221;.  Not as a friend.  I said that a \\&#8221;friend\\&#8221; was defined where both people would call each other as a friend.  And if I didn\\&#8217;t call him a friend, then there wasn\\&#8217;t a friendship.  This was an abnormal friendship.  Or perhaps just an abnormal relationship of aquaintance.<\/p>\n<p>Eventually he said, \\&#8221;I don\\&#8217;t know about that interview&#8230;\\&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\\&#8221;I don\\&#8217;t know about it either,\\&#8221; I said, a sense of regret creeping into my voice.  I don\\&#8217;t know why I wanted to do it.  Perhaps it was just my desire to provoke someone.<\/p>\n<p>And so I ended the phone conversation with a \\&#8221;we\\&#8217;ll see.\\&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I closed my cell and gave a mad groan as I threw my cell onto the sofa.  The cell bounced once and slipped under a pillow.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Great ideas backfire if pursued too heavily. So last Wednesday, I thought it would be a great idea to make a documentary of meeting people from the past. I had been inspired by a film about a guy\\&#8217;s ex-girlfriends. \\&#8221;Self-indulgent,\\&#8221; our instructor had said. But I went ahead with my plan and had babbled endlessly &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/j.unoccupied.org\/?p=69\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">an attempt at a interview<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-69","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/j.unoccupied.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/69","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/j.unoccupied.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/j.unoccupied.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/j.unoccupied.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/j.unoccupied.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=69"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/j.unoccupied.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/69\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/j.unoccupied.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=69"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/j.unoccupied.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=69"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/j.unoccupied.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=69"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}